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I’m telling you damn-it, it’s those Christians we need to worry about, not Islam.
ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE
VIDEO DESCRIPTION: An excerpt from “An American Carol” movie: “It’s the Christians!”. Have you been afraid of radical Arab terrorists? You’ve seen nothing yet! It’s the Christians, and they’re coming in force to terrorize the United States into religious slavery!
What about people who bomb abortion clinics in America?
When reading on the internet about Islamic terrorism, commenters often mention that there is also terrorism by Christian fundamentalists in America, where there have been bombings of abortion clinics and shootings of abortion providers.
How prevalent is this form of American domestic terrorism? In recent years there have been round about 15,000 – 20,000 murders in total per year in the US. How many of these were of abortion providers?
Guess now. Scribble your answer down.
If you had asked me a few months ago I would have said three or four murders per year.
Considered over the last fifteen years I was overestimating somewhat. According to the best-known pro-abortion organisation in the US, NARAL Pro-Choice America,
Since 1993, seven clinic workers – including three doctors, two clinic employees, a clinic escort, and a security guard – have been murdered in the United States. Seventeen attempted murders have also occurred since 1991.
That figure comes from a document published in December 2007. So far as I know the figures have not changed since then.
However the phrasing “Since 1993 seven abortion clinic workers have been murdered in the United States” could be re-arranged, with equal truth, to say that “since 1998 no abortion clinic workers have been murdered in the United States.”
The last such murder was ten years ago today.
When I first found out this fact I was surprised. Again and again I have read comments that assumed that this type of terrorism was less deadly than Islamic terrorism but was nonetheless a steadily lethal undercurrent of American life – a death here, a death there.
POSTED October 23rd, 2008 – SOURCE – http://www.samizdata.net/2008/10/what-about-abor-1/
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I have been spending much of my time at Eric Allen Bells’ Facebook page and new website for the past month or so. You may not know him yet, but he is a liberal film maker and writer who had a drastic change of view about Islam, and much of everything else, as a result of doing a documentary on the mega-mosque in Murfreesboro Tennessee. For Eric, the impetus to look at Islam again was a conversation he had with a Christian Coptic Cab driver in which the driver disagreed with him that the changes happening in Egypt are a good thing. The driver told him a regime change would be fatal to his family back home. For me the impetus was the responce of Muslims and non-Muslims, around the world and online, to Pastor Terry Jones’s Burn A Koran Day almost two years ago.
Eric is very blunt and right on in his assertions about Islam, most specifically that Islam is “the worst, most deadly idea in the history of the world”. I think all three videos put together here are a must see, as rarely have such truths about Islam been spoken freely on any mainstream media. Eric has been studying Islam now for about 2 years and he knows his stuff and is very articulate.
If you have not seen these or do not know about Eric, I suggest you watch the video and visit his sites because what he is doing is very important and he always says he is just getting started. He has a site here www.MosqueConfidential.com, that you can “Use this site to confidentially report any suspicious activities at a mosque – including but not limited to sedition, terrorist activity, questionable financial dealings, human rights abuses, female genital mutilation, child abuse, radical teachings, teaching the hatred or killing of Jews, Americans or any other group, affiliations with the Muslim Brotherhood or anything else which you believe to be suspicious and possibly part of a plan to destroy America from the inside.”
Information is the Enemy of Islamic Supremacism – SPREAD IT – Eric Allen Bell
See my other post concerning this video here.
Is the Bible as violent as the Koran? The answer is YES, if you talk to many Muslims and Liberals. But are they really? The following is a short discussion I had with a liberal about the subject. I hope to show you that they are not and that all non-Muslims should be uniting and working against Islam, not only because it is an institution that is a Human Rights nightmare, but because Islam really does have the submission of the whole world to Islam as it’s goal.
When you bring up the Koran or Hadith, many scream context context context,, claiming that if read in their proper context, they really don’t say what they say – so it’s all good, just relax.
Dr. Mark Durie (author of The Third Choice) confronts this misconception in his article,, A Dozen Bad Ideas for the 21st Century and says “8. The belief that putting something in context will always produce a more innocuous interpretation. This is not true. Attending properly to context can make a text even more offensive than it would otherwise have been. Conversely, if you take something out of context you may regard it more positively than you ought to. In reality, radical interpretations of the Qur’an, such as are used to support terrorism, almost always involve an appeal to a rich understanding of the context in which the Qur’an was revealed, including the life of Muhammad. On the other hand, many have taken peaceful verses of the Qur’an out of context, in order to prove that Islam is a peaceful religion”.
I think my responses in the exchange below do a fairly good job of showing that if put in their proper context, the Bible does not say what many who wish to obfuscate with false moral equivalences want it to say, and the Koran says and means exactly what many people fervently hope and pray that it does not really say and mean. For many, the obvious, when looking into the context, is just too much to bear – so we have a generation with their heads in the sand.
SOME PREFACING
I have been spending much of my time at Eric Allen Bells’ Facebook page and new website for the past month or so. You may not know him yet, but he is a liberal film maker and writer who had a drastic change of view about Islam, and much of everything else, as a result of doing a documentary on the mega-mosque in Murfreesboro Tennessee. For Eric, the impetus to look at Islam again was a conversation he had with a Christian Coptic Cab driver in which the driver disagreed with him that the changes happening in Egypt are a good thing. The driver told him a regime change would be fatal to his family back home. For me the impetus was the responce of Muslims and non-Muslims, around the world and online, to Pastor Terry Jones’s Burn A Koran Day almost two years ago (you can read my short testimony about it in the sidebar). To get people up to speed on Eric’s amazing story, I usually give them this article called The High Price of Telling The truth About Islam You can see the amazing work he has done on exposing and opposing the mosque in Tennessee (since his change of mind) here, that has resulted in him quickly becoming a big player in the counter-jihad movement and him being featured on Fox News in the past and twice in the last few days.
As a result of these Fox News appearances, the leftist online media is featuring the recent videos also because Eric is very blunt and right on in his assertions about Islam, most specifically that Islam is “the worst, most deadly idea in the history of the world”. Those two videos are posted here (at media matters – the site my exchange is on). I think all three videos are a must see as rarely have such truths about Islam been spoken freely on any mainstream media. Eric has been studying Islam now for about 2 years and he knows his stuff and is very articulate.
Here is all three segments on one video at Youtube
The following graphic was left on a new friends FaceBook page by a visitor here. It is exemplary of how some Liberals, Atheist, Humanist, and other non-Christians are willing to go to absurd lengths of equivalence to obfuscate the issue of Islamic terrorism and the “Civilization Jihad” that is Islam – and this puts us all in jeopardy. Please take a moment to read the graphic, I’ll continue my commentary on these absurd comparisons below.
This graphic might be more appropriately named “Comparing the Tea Party to the Taliban” (because the poster said,, “Sound familar??, Who does the TEA Party remind YOU of?”, and “they are one in the same!!”) or it could be named “Comparing Christianity and Islam”,, but even that has problems because not all on the “far right” are Christian and not all Christians are on the far right. Many Christians are liberals these days. But it is guaranteed that all Taliban are the same in ideology and purpose, no matter what you want to call it. The use of loaded terms is a small problem compared to the actual comparisons employed. Lets look at a few. The first absurd comparison that jumped of the graphic at me was…..
1.”vilify gay people”
Taliban – “Kill gay people outright” VS. Christian Right Wingers – “Pray the gay away” & “put gays people in electrified pens until they die”
I mean come on,,, out-right killing of gays against praying them away is not a moral equivalence. And as a Christian I can say I have never “prayed a gay away” and I have never heard another Christian do so neither. But I have seen Islamic Countries and Groups hang gays in the public square. And when have Christians or Conservatives ever put gays in electrified pens? Non-Christians often point out that the bible says twice that homosexuals will go to hell, but they are ignorant or dishonest about the fact that those same two list of sins of the hellbound contain sinful behaviors common to all men, like lying. It seems that some on the left and some non-Christians are the ones trying to vilify.
SOURCE: “Scholars of Islam, such as Sheikh ul-Islam Imam Malik, and Imam Shafi amongst others, ruled that Islam disallowed homosexual activity and ordained capital punishment for a person guilty of it.[1] Homosexual activity is a crime and forbidden in most Muslim-majority countries. In the Islamic regimes of Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, North Sudan and Yemen, homosexual activity is punished with the death penalty. In Nigeria and Somalia the death penalty is issued in some regions”
2. “Abrogate female rights and dignity”
Taliban – “Woman Bad, Men Good” & “woman starve if they have no companion” VS. Christian Right Wingers – “Woman Bad, Men Good” & “eliminate reproductive health care for woman”.
While the bible does say that a woman is not to preach in public and is to submit to her husband, non- Christians like to ignore that the same text says a husband has a higher calling of submission and is to love the wife the same as Jesus Christ loved His church – willing to live and die for her. The bible also says whether Jew or Gentile, Bond-Servant or free, male or female, we are all of the same worth.
Conversely the Koran says woman are 1. Deficient in intelligence and religion. 2. Hell will be full of mostly woman because they are the worst curse Allah has sent upon men. 3. Their testimony is worth half a mans. 4. They are entitled to half the family inheritance of a man. 5. Are to be beaten if not compliant to request for sex from husbands. 6. Must have four witnesses to allege rape, or the woman gets punished with stoning for bringing the charge. 7. Kill Woman guilty of lewdness by starvation. 8. Female Genital Mutilation is prescribed to insure the woman’s fidelity. 9. Raping of woman is allowed. 10. Women are possessions (What the right hand posesses). 11. Men may marry four woman, woman only get one husband. AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON HERE (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Women_%28Primary_Sources%29)
Not wanting to pay for birth control for others is not quite the same as woman starving if they have no companion.
3. “Force beliefs on fellow citizens”& “Integrate religion and governance”
Taliban – “making copies: converts non-believers, Prayer in school: Religious beliefs = Public policy, Indoctrinate the young” VS. Christian Right Wingers- “making copies: converts non-believers, Prayer in school: Religious beliefs = Public policy”
“One day, we ‘Islamophobes’ will be deemed the voice of reason” Eric Allen Bell
Eric Allen Bell’s story is very interesting. A liberal and one time contributor to the huge liberal website (The Daily Kos) he used to write Pro-Islam articles for the TDK and other liberal sites, that is until he went to the Middle East to do some research for a film. Then he changed his mind about Islam, wrote 3 articles critical of Islam at TDK and was let go and banned from the site.
Just months later Eric is here debating an Islamic Scholar (albeit the most inept Islamic Polemicist out there) and he does a great job. This debate was a real circus before it was cleaned up by Bell. The debate happened on Jamie Glazov’s blogtalk radio show and Robert Spencer showed up. Spencer was a major distraction and Glazov could not stay out of the debate and it seemed Bell hardly got a word in edge-wise,, but after editing – it is definitely worth the time to listen to. CHECK IT OUT!
FROM VIMEO: Islamic Scholar, Nadir Ahmed, challenged writer and film maker Eric Allen Bell to a debate. The mutually agreed upon topic was “Is Islam Inherently Violent?”
This video is at times very shocking as you will see first hand how Islamic Scholars not only admit that the Prophet Muhammad did in fact have sex with a 9 year old girl, but their defense for this type of pedophilia is that it was “consensual”.
This debate was held on The Jamie Glazov Show, which can be heard every Tuesday night at 8 pm Pacific on BlogTalk Radio.
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